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South Vietnamese Communists Sought Negotiated End

South Vietnamese Communists Sought Negotiated End - The New York Times

PARIS, June 11—As the North Vietnamese forces pressed ever closer to Saigon, the South Vietnamese Communists’ Provisional Revolutionary Government asked France to arrange negotiations with ever more urgency, according to authoritative French sources.


Information on the politics of the approaching end of the war and some of its aftermath has now become available here.


According to the French, the Vietnamese Communists became certain that they were winning the war after the fall of Ban Me Thuot on March 10. However, still uneasy about the timetable and the cost in lives, they were expecting to be unable to move into Saigon before late summer and possibly only after a ferocious battle.


There were, the sources here are convinced, three possibilities from the Communist point of view. The first was to get President Nguyen Van Thieu replaced by a senior Saigon personality who would negotiate a coalition with the Provincial Revolutionary Government, possibly the former Defense Minister, Gen. Tran Van Don.


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After the fall of Hue, that was discarded as unnecessary. Then the second possibility was considered, to insist on replacing Mr. Thieu with a personality of the “third force” who had been in contact with the Provincial Revolutionary Government, such as Gen. Duong Van Minh, and negotiating a government with him.


The third possibility was straight military victory, and the second idea was also discarded as this third possibility seemed more and more easily within Hanoi's early reach.


Fear of Being Eclipsed


The Provisional Revolutionary Government preferred negotiations for fear of being eclipsed and left powerless by the North Vietnamese if the war ended with the entry of Hanoi's troops in the southern capital and without any agreement, according to evidence here.


That is what did happen. The new information is that the Provisional Revolutionary Government now has virtually nothing to say in the South. Saigon is being run by a North Vietnamese military committee whose head, though a southerner by birth, wears the North Vietnamese Army uniform and is a part of Hanoi's team.




On only two ceremonial occasions has the known Provisional Revolutionary Government leadership appeared in Saigon since the take‐over, and then it disappeared from view. The ministers who figure on the Provisional Revolutionary Government's cabinet list have not taken over the Saigon Government departments, which function with unknown or invisible North Vietnamese Communist heads.


But Le Duan, the head of the party, has been shuttling between Hanoi and Saigon in a small Ilyushin jet.


According to the information, all officials with whom the French Ambassador, Jean‐Marie Merillon, who has since left dealt after the take‐over were northerners who did not give their names.


It was Mr. Merillon, the senior French diplomat in Vietnam, who argued with Mr. Thieu that he should leave, the sources said. He told the South Vietnamese President that it was the only way to save a vast number of lives in Saigon and probably Mr. Thieu's own life.



Even after the unexpectedly rapid advance of North Vietnamese troops had made the fall of Saigon a foregone conclusion, Mr. Thieu insisted on fighting to the bitter end. French diplomatic reports say he argued that he could establish an enclave in Saigon and the Mekong Delta and negotiate later, from a better position.


The United States Ambassador, Graham A. Martin, was so preoccupied with organizing the American evacuation in the last few days of Mr. Thieus’ Government that he did not take part in such exchanges, the information indicates. The French reports said Mr. Martin delayed arranging evacuation, for eight to ten days beyond Washington's wishes and then barely had time to work it out.


Generals Advise Departure


However, the French believe that the Central Intelligence Agency mission in Saigon, which rejected Mr. Martin's persistent optimism even as the situation was crumbling, did help persuade Mr. Thieu to leave.


On the night before Mr. Thieu finally agreed to go, his generals, headed by the chief of the general staff, Cau Van Vien, told him it was the only way to save Saigon. More than one Vietnamese described Mr. Thieu to diplomats in those days as being “like Hitler in his bunker, talking about imaginary divisions.”


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He turned power over to his vice president, Tran Van Huong, who lasted a week and then handed over to General Minh. By that time, there was no longer any question of negotiations, which might have been possible some weeks earlier.


On the day Ambassador Martin left Saigon, by helicopter from the American Embassy compound, he went to pay a formal farewell ‘call on Ambassador Merillon, whose embassy was around the block.


The American Ambassador presented the French Ambassador with a pagoda statue as a farewell present, and took his leave.


A little after 4 that afternoon, Ambassador Martin boarded his helicopter. But the lift continued until 8 o'clock the next morning.


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Witnesses in the French compound next door could watch as the Americans rose floor by floor through their Embassy to reach the helicopter platform, and the Vietnamese throng pushed after them, kept a floor behind by the Marines.


Hanoi's Tanks Enter


Shortly after the last helicopter took off, guards shooting to keep more refugees from trying to clamber aboard or ride its skids, an American turned up with his suitcase. It was too late. He was sheltered in the French Embassy for while, and eventually sent home.


By that time, the first North Vietnamese tanks were moving down Hai Ba Trung Street, past the side entrance of the French Embasy, on their way to the Presidential Palace. The lead tank was firing its cannon to clear the way.


Otherwise, there was no fighting as they entered Saigon.


General Minh was awaiting them in the palace. He was taken off in a jeep to the radio station. Then, according to reports, he disappeared. Actually, it is now known, he and his entourage were returned to the palace for 48 hours, the men put in one room and the women in another. Then he was sent home.


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A few days later, communications with the outside world were cut.


Apart from the French Embassy, where there are still 153 people with a tenuous radio link abroad, the only Western diplomats left in Saigon are Belgian and a Swiss, without staffs or communications.


The Polish and Hungarian delegations to the International Control Commission remained, but the report said they were confined to their quarters except when they too were admitted to the two victory ceremonials, and their telephones have been cut. A Soviet mission that had been accredited to the Provisional Revolutionary Government in Loc Ninh before the final offensive, was evacuated to Hanoi.


No Soviet or Chinese diplomats have been permitted to come to Saigon.


The conclusion of informed sources here ‘is that Hanoi is now in no hurry to decide how to deal with Saigon politically, and that there may be a long delay in setting up a new South Vietnamese Government, if ever that is done.


The view in Paris is that Hanoi has now decided to maintain direct control, a step that the sources said was “bound to come sooner or later” but that they think came much sooner than Hanoi planned or than might have been the case.


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Ambassador Martin's arguments for refusing to urge President Thieu to leave earlier when the French, at least, thought a negotiated end was still possible, were that Mr. Thieu's departure would provoke wild panic and chaotic collapse in Saigon.


So far as the French know, his instructions from Washington were vague during this period and such decisions were left to his discretion.


Sunday, April 28, 2019

SỰ SỤP ĐỔ CỦA VNCH ĐÃ ĐƯỢC SẮP XẾP CỦA TRỜI ĐẤT .
KHI cụ Trần văn Hương đã giao quyền lực cho một người có một tiền định rất xấu (fatality) là tướng Dương văn Minh .
Ông sanh ngày 16/2/1916 (sic) .
Dựa vào Numerology tôi phân tách .
DƯƠNG = 4 6 7 5 3 = 25 = 7
VĂN = 6 1 5 = 12 = 3
MINH = 4 1 5 5 = 15 = 6
Tổng cộng : 7 3 6 = 16 .
Như vậy ông Minh bị số 16 tác động HAI lần . Đây là một số RẤT XẤU (số của TAI HỌA TIỀN ĐỊNH LẠ LÙNG/strange fatality) mà ví dụ điển hình là cố TT Mỹ Abraham Lincoln : ông này có tên cộng lại bằng 16 và cũng là TT thứ 16 của Mỹ !.
Ý Nghĩa Của Số 16 : The Shattered Citadel (Thành Quách Tan Vỡ)
(dựa theo sách Linda Goodman's Star Signs)
Theo nguời Chaldeans cổ đại thì số 16 đuợc biểu tuợng bởi hình ảnh “ một Tòa Tháp bị Sét đánh , từ đó một nguời đang rơi xuống , với một Vuơng miện trên đầu ” (a Tower struck by Lightning , from which a man is falling , which a Crown on his head”) . Số này cảnh báo về một tai họa tiền định lạ lùng (strange fatality) , cũng như sự nguy hiểm của các tai nạn và sự thất bại của những kế hoạch của nguời mang số đó . Nếu tên bằng 16 , điều dĩ nhiên là khôn ngoan đổi tên để tránh tác động của nó . Nếu ngày sanh là ngày 16 của bất cứ tháng nào , sự thử thách của số 16 phải đuợc cẩn thận đón nhận/đáp ứng, để cho tác động/ảnh huởng có thể giảm nhẹ tới một mức không khắc nghiệt lắm (the challenge of the 16 must be met, so that its effect may be diluted to a milder vibration) . Để tránh khuynh huớng tiền định đầy khắc nghiệt này (the fatalistic tendency) của ngày sanh là số 16 , nguời (có ngày sanh là 16) này phải cố gắng lập kế hoạch truớc khi làm bất cứ việc gì (one must endeavor to make all plans in advance) , để chắc chắn rằng mọi khả năng của thất bại phải đuợc tiên liệu/biết truớc (making certain that any possibility of failure is anticipated) và phải đuợc né tránh/đi vòng quanh /đổi huớng (circumvented) bằng cách chú ý cẩn thận từng chi tiết . Số 16 cũng mang đến cùng với nó sự bắt buộc và trách nhiệm phải nghe theo tiếng nói từ bên trong của số 7 , tiếng nói này sẽ luôn luôn cảnh báo về nguy hiểm thông qua những giấc mơ hoặc trực giác để tránh kịp thời (intuition in time to avoid it) . Không nên coi thuờng tiếng nói từ bên trong . Như tôi (tức bà Linda Goodman – TTT) truớc đây đã giải thích phần nào về sự kiện rằng tên “Abraham Lincoln” bằng số 16 , rằng ông Lincoln đã đuợc cảnh báo nhiều lần về việc ám sát ông là tiềm tàng/có thể xảy ra thông qua những giấc mơ của ông (was warned repeatedly of his potential assassination by his dreams) . . . và cũng như bởi vài ông đồng bà bóng (“sensitives” or “mediums”) đuợc đưa vào Tòa Nhà Trắng bởi bà Mary Todd Lincoln . Ông đã coi thuờng/không nghe theo những cảnh báo rõ ràng này , và đã từ chối thực hiện những biện pháp phòng ngừa (precautions) cần thiết , vì vậy , đã không thể tránh khỏi tai họa tiền định này (was unable to avoid his fate) .Nhưng điều này đã có thể tránh đuợc (but it could have been) , và đây là điều quan trọng mà nguời có ngày sanh là 16 phải nhớ . Để tìm kiếm hạnh phúc bằng những cách khác hơn là làm lãnh đạo cấp cao (leadership at the top)(Tòa Tháp và Vuơng Miện) – thì nên từ bỏ sự nổi tiếng/tiếng tăm và danh vọng (to renounce fame and celebrity) – đây chính là cách để giảm nhẹ khía cạnh/mặt tiêu cực (negative aspect) của số 16 .
Lincoln đã không làm như vậy , vì nghĩ rằng điều quan trọng là phải cố gắng thống nhứt đất nuớc (feeling it was more important to attempt to keep the nation united) hơn là hưởng thụ hạnh phúc (fulfillment) của một cuộc sống riêng tư , mặc dù ông đã nhận chức Tổng thống với nhiều miễn cưỡng và nỗi buồn sâu thẳm (with much reluctance and a profound sadness) .
( Dịch từ trang 254-255 của sách đã dẫn của bà chiêm tinh gia nổi tiếng nguời Mỹ Linda Goodman) .
San Jose ngày thứ hai 15/03/2010 lúc 12:03 trưa .